VIDEO: A Videoblog circa 2006

Comments

[Shawn]

Jay,

Very good point.. I am glad that you responded with a video that illustrates your point. I would have played devils advocate till doomsday with you earlier.

Ok... So I still feel that we can infect traditional media but I don't know how.

I don't know how this can be kept a secret.

Do you think if we move fast enough we can do an end around traditional media and leave them scratching their heads saying "Duh.. What happened..?" I wish.

I know the pain of working from the inside. It is terrible.

So now what?

[Zadi (aka karmagrrrl)]

Hmm. I think that there is a middle ground here. I don't necessarily think Coke might advertise on your vlog - but the Nation MS Society might, or anything that relates to what you are talking about. And the thing is that you (we) would be in control of who advertises. So maybe there can be some non-profits that can get the word out on their cause through your vlog. Or it doesn't necessarily have to be commercial interruptions, they can be mentions before or after the show, so as to not disrupt the flow. This isn't a bad thing Jay. I think advertising will be more streamlined and we'll be able to filter out the advertisers we don't want and align ourselves with the ones we do. These are exciting times because there is a real possibility that we the people will get our voices back, and advertisers will listen to what we want - not the other way around.

[charlene]

mmm. coke is it.
it's the real thing.

[charlene]

mmm. coke is it.
it's the real thing.

[ryanne]

fuck kid.
i just choked on my breakfast laughing.
you are such a goof, it's hilarious...
more dancing! oh you had a message?
yeah i think we can do this without adverts, i really do.
people power not ad power. i think we can infect the traditional media, sure. we can co-opt them instead of the other way around.

[jay dedman]

guys...advertising is a slippery slope.
just look at TV and magazines.
Its all about advertising.
you are all brave to think that we can be stong enough to resist temptation.
again, im just documenting my worry.
time will tell.

[ryanne]

p.s. the gates make me yawn too.
YAAAAAWWWWNNNNNNNchristo.

[Erik Nelson]

Dedman, you're a very strange and curious individual...and I mean that in the most respecting, and amdirable of ways...always a pleasure...E

[Erik Nelson]

Dedman, you're a very strange and curious individual...and I mean that in the most respecting, and amdirable of ways...always a pleasure...E

[Mica]

really would be a great commercial.
I am going to show it to the ad guys I was meeting with today.

but seriously check this:

I posted video of a band who opened for a friend of mine at a tiny poorly attended show at the dingy underground bar of knitting factory in nyc way back in september. It was about me and my friend watching in awe as these teens kicked some rockn'rollass and how we'd never be that young again, and then us realizing that we we're never that cool when we were that young, catch-22. Guess who else saw them that night? Well, lets just say it landed them a series of 'documentary' commercials for co-cola newest campaign 'really, really quite real'.

http://www2.coca-cola.com/presscenter/av_advertising.html (see girlband)

http://publicaddress.typepad.com/hello/files/rock.mov

anyways, just really hazy borders between advertising and other, always has been. And you know the best best best advertising any company can get is free! It's word of mouth or vlog or however we commmunicate with eachother nowadays

[Marc]

Jay, you are spot on with what I am thinking (more like I am thinking what you're thinking) whatever. I hope it takes a long time to get there.

I don't know if you were serious about your mom having MS, but I'm involved in the MS society fundrasing so..yeah...no point htere just...

Look, Elvis!

[toeknee]

brilliant jay. there is a fine line between art and commerce. as the :30 second spot grows useless advertisers are clamouring for more in-program content while the viewers are getting fed-up. content has to be strong to survive. meanwhile viewer demographics are splintering. in the end we'll be marketed to and not at. man this is deep. anyhoo my point is that it's only a matter of time before one of you more prolific vloggers gets sponsored… ryanne could be sponsored by ThermoSkin, Mr. Cookie or Mrs. Fields for you, etc. it's inevitable.

[Duncan]

Still laughing Jay... Those were some sweet dance moves man hahaahhha

What happens when somebody famous starts video blogging?

People will sit through an ad to see what Paris Hilton or some other whore of a celebrity is up to...

Sad but it could happen.

[cweagel]

where is the Jay Dances RSS Feed?

My god man.

What you're doing is showing us the potential of this medium while creating that potential.

Also to Duncan: Adam Sandler, believe it or not, was one of the earlist videobloggers I found.
He's probably still positng clips of his dog running into stacks of toilet paper.

That's a big celebrity posting a vlog.

What does that mean?

[jay dedman]

it means we're monkeys filled with grace.

[Duncan]

It means I now know Adam Sandler's dog is named Meatball.

[Stu]

Your ad was entertaining... so thats OK!! It was interesting to watch!
and... yawns are so contagious :O

[Raygun]

Masterful!! What a great answer. I feel like I'm watching a good documentary with psychedelic freak outs and transitions between meaningful dialogue. Entertaining...and damn I'll I have to drink is my decaffinated Coke.
Ray

[Chuck Olsen]

is it too late to say this is f-ing brilliant?

too bad your point is upstaged by your maniac dance-gasm. man, i want more of that.

what if coke offers vloggers $500 to dance around drinking coke at the end of their vids?

[jay dedman]

I dont know..you tell me.
if we're shilling coke...will we forget what we are making in the first place?
i guess if it allows you not to work, people want to find out.

[Josh Leo]

ok I laughed outloud for about an minute durring the commercial break. that is exactly how I feel about the corpratization of Vlogging

[Sean Bowen]

This was a real joy to watch, I laughed pretty hard. I think you are right though, its been sweet to see the vlogging community really step out on their own without commercial support and then to step further and support each other. It'd be good to see Americans take back the power and influence of the commercial sector.

[Fireflii]

omg ... what a great way to stumble into vlog! I loved the dancing btw! and I have to agree with some of the other folks here that it would not surprise me at all if Coke (or whoever) starts to offer $500 to vloggers to put their products in vids. After all that is what happened to the orginal personal website. Jeez you can't go anywhere on the 'net now without seeing ads. Okay ... so my age is showing. I had my first personal website online in the early nineties. no ads then ... just interesting perspectives on people around the world. But money talks unfortunately. And too many peeps listen :(

[Richard]

Personally, I'm more interested in just having fun om this moment, rather than spending energy worrying about "co-opting" and stuff like that. There are a skizzillion different scenarios that could result in a worse or better vlogging experience in the future, and the only thing for sure, is that it will change, like everything does. Having said all that, the video was great, very funny and entertaining and one reason why, in this moment, blogging is very cool to me. Anyway, I have to go because, for some reason, I have a hankerin for a coke.

[Serra]

I just found this video and couldn't leave without just letting you know that this is "what's cool about video in a blog", to quote verdi. not the only thing, but one of them. none of us do it much yet - especially myself - but your use of video to illustrate a point that would never be so illuminating written out, while actually conversing publicly, is admirable. you've got a gift for this, I'm really glad I came across this post.